need some help

 ok. two areas of the dlc i need a hand with. 

 neitzelflurgel or whatever the hell it is called --- there are like ten dwemer fuckers that attack you all at once and kill you quick as shit. --- i even waited there until other people showed up --- 3 people and we all died quick as shit. 

and there is another part with this giant ogre fuck whose life bar covers the top of the screen --- he sends out a bunch of ogre ghosts that heel him and fuck you up quick. 

has anyone else beat these two ? if so, with how many people ? 

heal*